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Chris
Hello and welcome to the ending Buddy Burnout show. We are your host, Chris and Phile, co-founders of a multi winning functional medicine practice serving busy people with energy, mood and gut issues.
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Filly
Well, business, addictive doing, people pleasing and perfectionism might be the norm. It's not normal and it's a major contributor to health issues.
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Chris
Our goal with this show is to give you a holistic root root cause approach to healing your body so that you don't have to continue doctor or diet hopping or popping a gazillion supplements hoping something might stick.
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Filly
So get ready to heal your body. Get your spark back deeply, connect with yourself, and step into the life of your dreams.
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Chris
Let's dive in.
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Chris
Gidday guys, how you going? And welcome to this episode of the ending buddy Burnout show. two things. One, I'm going to let Phile introduce the topic to this one because she's going to absolutely not butcher it like I would. And two, hey, if you're not watching the actual video of this one, jump on to our YouTube channel link in the description down below, and check out what happens when you try and rush shaving and you end up having to, level up the whole beard off.
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Chris
So, you're going to have to put up with the full crisp face in the video. But for those of you who are listening to the audio, you'll know why I've got a good face for radio.
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Filly
Yeah, like it's been a few days since Chris has had a very short stubble.
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Chris
Oh, man.
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Filly
Yeah, it is still getting used to it. I'm pretty sure if someone jumped onto YouTube for the first time, they wouldn't think anything of it.
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Chris
Yeah.
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Filly
For anyone who has seen Chris's face for a while, you'd be like, who the heck is that underneath all the hair?
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Chris
Chris, why is your dad on your YouTube channel?
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Filly
Okay.
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Chris
Oh sorry guys, we look forward to bringing this one to you.
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Filly
Talking about dads and family, we're talking all about genetics today. So change genetics. And we titled today's episode Why Genetic Testing Can Do More Harm than good, which is probably a controversial, maybe an unpopular title for, a functional medicine approach to healing from health issues. So we're going to dive into I am going to talk about what gene testing is, and it can be helpful.
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Filly
And it has a place, but also what we've seen a lot, especially with new clients or, you know, the, people that we've talked about to that sometimes they can be so much hyper fixation on genes and it can get people stuck in a bit of a victim mentality. So we're going to really break that down because it could be the reason why you're not healing nice.
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Chris
All right.
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Filly
So some questions that that we get asked by a lot of clients which I will use these is a pre-fame into what we're going to talk about today often sound like this. so someone's tried all the things they're trying to get, but, from their health issues and, I don't know, nothing's working. Maybe I just have dodgy genes.
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Filly
I need to do a gene test. I'm struggling to get better. It must be my genes. And so then they will request to do a gene test. another question that I hear often is I've done a gene test, something like 23 and me, maybe one on line and oh my gosh, there was so many genes that came back as abnormal.
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Filly
What supplement do I need? And this is going to fix all my issues. And then the third question that I hear a lot when it comes to genes is I have X gene mutation that might look like Comt or H5. I'm going to talk about that one a little bit later. Should I stay on this supplement for the rest of my life in order to function now underneath these questions, these questions are great.
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Filly
Like cool. Everyone who is asking these questions wants to be, well, they're trying to find solutions. But underneath these questions can be an resource for unconscious core beliefs that can actually block your ability to heal. So we're going to answer these questions as we're going through the episode. We talk about when gene testing can be helpful and also when it's not and how it can cause anxiety and fade in.
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Filly
I am broken belief, which will literally block your ability to heal.
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Chris
Now I speak my language. Genes not 100%. unless we're talking about Levi's, but, beliefs. That's in mind. That's in my.
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Filly
All right. Well, you you're going to have to stay quiet for a little bit longer to increase.
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Chris
Oh, crap.
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Filly
We're not talking about beliefs yet. We're going to talk about genes.
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Chris
This this had some time stamps for the for the, people who go cross-eyed when, when science comes about, they're just like, don't tell me the science. Just tell me what to do about it.
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Filly
I feel like most people who listen to our podcast like both.
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Chris
Yeah, all right. But leave a comment if you're more like me or leave a comment if you're more like, Phil, let's do a poll. I bet you everyone will say that they're like me.
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Filly
Okay. Oh yeah.
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Chris
I don't think so I, I doubt it.
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Filly
So so for those who might not know what a gene is, I'm pretty sure you do it to break it down. It's a basic unit of heredity passed on from a parent to a child. So we all have genes, we all have DNA. We all have very similar genes and DNA. But there's going to be tiny little, differences in each one of us in order for us to make us unique.
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Filly
So when it comes to genetic testing, it's really looking at different sequences of DNA and how they're arranged in the health space. Genetic testing can be used to assess for risk of hereditary diseases. Things like coeliac is a really common one, and JP's often test for coeliac. If someone is not doing well with gluten or they have chronic low iron.
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Filly
A lot of gut issues, other assessments that genetic testing can show you more information about in terms of risk of developing different diseases might be heart disease, diabetes, certain types of cancers. And so when you do these tests, it can those tests can give you guidance in supporting your genes to prevent disease and optimise health. So cool.
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Filly
Great. That's great. Knowledge is power. if that helps you to live a healthy and happy life and you're not stressed out about.
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Filly
Oh my gosh.
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Filly
I think I might develop cancer one day because that's what my genes are saying. Then if that's not you, then it's like cool, that's healthy, healthful, helpful. Now, another, space that I say genetic testing in the functional medicine space would be if you're chronically ill. So you have a functional medicine practitioner and they might conduct gene testing to get more data to look for gene mutations that may be leading to your symptoms, and then offer targeted supplement and lifestyle advice to support gene pathways.
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Filly
So gene mutations where you've got genes that are slightly off and then it can affect like a lot of the times in the body, it affects the way you're metabolising and utilising different nutrients. So I'll give you a really concrete example. if you've read my book Ending Body Burnout, I do have a section in the start of the book when I talk about the body systems around genes, and especially the MT, gene, which.
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Chris
Looks like a swear word.
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Filly
does, doesn't it.
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Filly
Do?
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Filly
So. So the nature of ageing is all to do with your ability to detoxify, and to methyl eight different amino acids. It helps to break down amino acids or the amino acid homocysteine. And in order for it to function really well, it needs different amino acids like and acetylcysteine and more specifically B12 and folate to really function at its best.
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Filly
Now, did you know that a quarter of the population have the, gene mutation.
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Chris
For a.
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Filly
Quarter? So that's quite a lot.
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Chris
That's like 25%.
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Filly
That's 25%. So if you've got a family of four.
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Chris
That's two, eight one.
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Filly
Person in your family may have this gene mutation. Now remember these can also be passed down. So you might actually have a family. And all of you have the MT, gene mutation. so, so some signs of if this mutation is going a little bit crazy. Well, what it's really important for first of all. So I mentioned detoxification methylation.
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Filly
So it really helps to remove toxins from the body. It's really important for repairing DNA. So that's even like after exercise when you muscle and your cells breakdown you need more for and your ability to meet the light to repair cellular damage done to the body. It also helps to keep inflammation in check. And it's really important for protecting the nerves or the protective coating around the nerves so that they stay really healthy.
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Filly
So when if someone has an empty HIF, mutation and it's expressing it often means that you start burning through particular vitamins such as B12 and folate really fast. And so then it compromises your body's ability to meet the light. And your body needs B12 and folate for lots of other things as well. or for some people it can bottlenecks.
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Filly
So you might have some little coenzyme nutrients that aren't functioning very well. And B12 and folate bottleneck in the body, which causes, a slow methylation or almost like a flooding of those nutrients. And it can cause a lot of issues. So some symptoms that might gene mutation can be linked to would be things like fatigue, brain fog, low mood, often say HIF, mutation in inflammatory issues such as body aches, headaches, migraines, food sensitivities, hormonal issues, infertility, fluid retention, difficulty detoxing very commonly see this in people who have had long haul Covid or vaccine reactions.
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Filly
So if this empty gene is completely shut down, it can lead to full blown mental health issue issues like suicide or depression, anxiety, bipolar and schizophrenia. So really important gene to have okay. So it could be helpful. So if we go along the same example of MTX for understanding what your genes are doing, if you have a mutation could help to guide towards a treatment plan.
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Filly
So for example, if I have a client and a lot of clients, not a lot. Some have already done a test for Hfref. They've worked with other practitioners. So already we know that's part of their history. And that may need mean that in order for them to heal and feel well, they may need methylated forms of folate, vitamin B12, B6.
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Filly
By the way, synthetic forms of these vitamins, like folic acid, will not help. And they'll make the issue where. So you want to make sure you're using methylated forms of these nutrients. also if you have the mutation then supporting the function of that with other nutrients can be really helpful as well. So things like glutathione and magnesium supporting the liver and then making sure that you're eating a lot of foods rich in vitamin B's, which will just help you own capacity to be able to meet the light as well.
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Filly
So things like asparagus, lettuce, broccoli, avocado, dark leafy greens like spinach and kale, fruits high and basics often animal products. So poultry, seafood, but even bananas, more leafy greens and B12 you can find in fish, poultry and mate. And then from a lifestyle point of view understanding, if you have a mutation and it's impacting your symptoms, you'd really want to start looking at your toxin load so far is part of detoxifying.
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Filly
So if you can reduce your load then it's just going to take one big job out of the picture that your gene does. so looking at what are you using in your products? Are you using standard stuff from the supermarket? It's highly likely it's got toxic chemicals in it. what do you painting your house with? are you smelling petrol when you go and fill up?
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Filly
You know, I mean, we all do. But what are some things that you can do to reduce weight?
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Chris
We. Oh, what.
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Filly
Will your do? Smell petrol. Like you jump out of your car and you feeling at me. Petrol. Your car with petrol.
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Filly
I remember when I was a kid, I loved the smell of petrol and I would like, literally sniff it. Not. Not like as an addict. But my dad would be filling up the car and I'd be like, ooh, I like that. So probably I had some issues. it also food. So there's a lot of food additives that can impact your ability to detoxify and mould exposure.
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Filly
So reducing those and then helping your body flush out toxins. So how can you optimise. You're sweating, whinging and pooing because that's the way we get rid of toxins. Can you have some soreness. Can you do some exercise where you can sweat more, drink lots of water. So you're weighing and if you're constipated not pooing very well if or if you've got a lot of gut issues, do some gut work.
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Filly
Okay. Sorry. Genetic testing can be helpful for sure. And it's often a part of a treatment protocol. And we're holistically working with our clients. However, it can also be very, very harmful. And a lot of the clients that end up working with this in some way, genetic testing or even just knowing about genes has become part of a dysfunctional story that's blocking their ability to heal.
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Filly
so let's talk about that, shall we?
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Chris
Okay.
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Filly
yeah. Okay. So if we go back to the questions that I mentioned earlier and we'll just dig into those, so if someone is like confused, frustrated, they're not getting better. They're taking the supplements, they're doing the diet, they're living low. Tox. but they're struggling to get better, and they think maybe it's just my genes. Maybe it's just my genes.
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Filly
Maybe I need to do a gene test. I think that's going to be the thing that solves the issue. Oh my gosh, so many, so many, especially new clients get to this. It's like the last, the last, path on the road. It's like it's just my genes. I'm destined. So underneath that is so many different stories that that person is telling, so many different beliefs that are connected to to this, this question that they're asking, not for everyone.
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Filly
But again, I say this is a pattern. So one, there's this hyper fixation, first of all, that maybe my genes it faulty. What's wrong with them. So therefore if my genes are faulty then there must be something faulty with me. So it feeds in on this belief that I am broken. It often perpetuates a belief that I'm a complicated case as well.
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Filly
And by the way, there's often this, this environment and different situations that have led that person to feel like that. Anyway, they've gone through ten different practitioners. They've done all the medical stuff, they've done a bunch of natural stuff. They're still broken, they're still unwell. So therefore I'm a complicated case. Now, if this person then did gene testing.
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Filly
And by the way, every single person has mutated genes, every single person. I betcha that if every single person on this planet did a genetic test and again, I use 23 and May is like an example because it lists so many different gene mutations, every single person is going to have at least one gene that is mutated.
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Filly
However, a person with a non-conscious core belief that believes that they're a complicated case, that they break and that they're wonky, that they're weird, that they're messed up when they see that data on a piece of paper that says your genes are all messed up, then it's like another piece of validation. Now, the piece of validation. And this often is all happening unconsciously, but it perpetuates this deeper belief that they can't be well, that they're destined to be broken, mutated.
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Chris
Interesting.
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Filly
Okay. Another thing to. So, again, going back to the questions I started off the podcast with, so I've done a gene test. I've had so many markers come back as abnormal. What supplement do I need? And I've seen this with clients as well, new clients where they've like, exhausted the amount of supplements that they need to take based on a gene test.
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Filly
But they keep digging. It's just like not haven't got the right supplement yet. Or maybe it wasn't in the right dose, or maybe the cofactor wasn't there. And so that becomes this hyper fixation that the solution is outside of them rather than inside of them. And we'll talk about, epigenetics in gene expression soon because if it was as simple as you have this gene mutation, you take vitamin B12 and all your issues disappear.
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Filly
It's like right now, occasionally that does happen. It's like, oh yeah, you just really deficient in B12. And adding that into your system has really helped to get your body functioning well. But it's very rare that this supplement is the fix. And again, it perpetuates this belief that I can't heal myself. Something else or someone else must do this for me.
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Filly
And so people can get stuck in victim mentality.
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Filly
And then the other question to you is around, I have more if it if gene mutation, for example, should I stay on methylated base for the rest of my life? Now, I'm not saying that every single person who asked this question has a deep belief that that this is a dysfunctional question to ask. But underneath that, and again, if this is something that you have asked your practitioner, maybe even if it's me, just have a deeper look onto that, because there may be signs that there's a deeper belief that I'm not capable of being fully well, because I have this mutation.
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Filly
And even deeper than that, I'm not capable of being fully well, because deep down, I have an unconscious core belief that I can't or I'm undeserving or I'm incapable or I'm broken. Now, raw data that you get when you do a genetic test, which shows a gene mutation again can be helpful. However. Is it even expressing so.
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Filly
So here's the thing. If, if if a person does a genetic test and they're getting so hyper fixated on all these mutations and what they need to do about them, that genetic test doesn't tell you if it's actually expressing or not. So you may be going down a rabbit hole that you don't even have to worry about. something like, as a really practical thing that we'll do with clients is run an organic acid test.
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Filly
Now, it's not a gene test, but there are markers that if they're super duper high or really, really low, or there's different patterns, which is a practitioner will be looking for patterns that it can actually say, yeah, you do have this gene mutation and it's expressing there is so many times that a client, a new client, has come with the knowledge and the test that they have.
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Filly
The MT gene mutation. And when we do the organic acid test, it's not expressing.
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Filly
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Filly
Which is really cool because then it's like oh wow. Okay. Already my, my thought patterns around why I'm sick has totally been shattered. And it's, good information and evidence that even if you have a gene mutation, it doesn't have to affect your health at all.
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Filly
Okay. Some other things too, is that gene mutation issues can cause health anxiety. So it's like again, it's just feeding into these deeper beliefs around victimhood and broken or mutated. oh, I have this sensation. It must be that gene. Oh my gosh, I have to do more. I have to eat more broccoli. I have to take more supplements.
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Filly
Oh, no, it's not working. Because I'm still saying, now what am I going to do? It can also cause people to feel, to live really restrictive, as if they have wrapped themselves up in bubble wrap because they know that they have mutated genes and they're so fearful that of their weakness, their lack of resiliency. Again, these are beliefs stories.
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Filly
So therefore they have to eat a super clean, healthy diet. They can never bring a toxic product into their lives ever. They have to keep themselves out of society so that they have very little stress and maybe even stop work so that their genes don't cause issues. Not fun, not a fun way to live.
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Filly
Anything you want to add so far?
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Chris
no. I keep going through the list and then we'll we'll break it down after that.
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Filly
Okay. Now, I've heard heard this a few times to again, when I say a new client, it's in the connect the dots initial consult, which is the first step in our ending body burn out method. And that's where we're putting all the dots on the page, collecting all the data to make it an action plan going forward. And something that I've heard from some people, is that they, sorry, fixated on a disease.
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Filly
And that might be a gene gene mutation, or it might be a hereditary disease like schizophrenia, ADHD, thyroid autoimmune condition that they are so miserable and they've suffered so much in this diagnosis and the effects of it that they have feared passing it on to their kids. So they have chosen not to become a parent. That's pretty deep.
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Filly
That's pretty deep. Like, I mean, a new client won't say that out loud when they start it, but ask a few questions. And underneath what's what's the problem with with knowing and having this knowledge and feeling this is it. There's this deep hurt and fear of having kids. But then then now, past childbearing age, and now there's disappointment and sadness and this feeling of loss for something that they could have had that they chose not to have because there were two skin.
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Filly
So that's pretty big.
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Filly
Okay. And then I mean, we talked about beliefs around being broken. You stated something wrong with me. Those beliefs essentially, like when they become really sticky and they cause big issues and block your ability to heal is when you're identifying as a broken person or identifying as a mutated person might not be the actual word that you say to yourself, your conscious mind out loud all the time.
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Filly
But dig a bit deeper, and there's usually identity based beliefs based on whether there's a family history of a disease or you have knowledge that you have, mutated genes.
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Chris
All right. Okay. Can I jump in?
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Filly
Yeah.
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Chris
When? When I chat to somebody for the first time and, there's a lot there's a lot of podcasts these days, and, and I know I've listened to a few, and, I'm like you, I don't nerd out on on science and that sort of. Although I do have a science degree. It's so funny. You've got a, psychology degree.
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Chris
I've got a science one. And I kind of lean away from science. anyway, my point is, what people tell me is like, I was listening to a podcast, and I think the reason is the root cause is I've got this, my surgeon. And it's just like, oh, wow. Interesting. And and they're like, this is the.
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Filly
Do you mean FOMO?
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Chris
No no no no no.
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Filly
No.
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Chris
No, that's.
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Filly
Well, that's what someone has actually said to you.
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Chris
on many occasions. Just the way it spell MT. Oh.
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Filly
Oh yeah. Looks like the mother.
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Chris
Mother type a bad word. Yeah.
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Filly
Okay. Yeah.
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Chris
We've yet you had it. Yeah. So they'll say I have the mofo gene and But they don't say mofo. They'll say the actual word. anyway, anyway, they'll say that. And this is the root causes. The reason I get it, I know it, it's this this this test. Please, please, please. And. Phile and I, as you, as you know, listeners, we're interested in getting to the root.
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Chris
Root cause not just the superficial. yeah. Okay, so got that. But but what else? Like, why is this expressing? Why is this why is this happening to you, and other people that that also have this mutation it might not be expressing. So what makes you special that that this is coming up for you? and so, my favourite thing to use is the drama triangle.
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Chris
And a victim is always looking for a hero or a rescuer or somebody to, to save them or to pull them out of the pit, you know, and the pit of despair and disaster that that some a you might find yourself in or other people, that you know, might find themself in is, you know, symptomology and all this, this sort of stuff, health stuff going on.
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Chris
And then all of a sudden you just like, did it. It did. yes. This is it. It's the mofo gene. This is the reason you're knowing this now is going to be the the the rescue, the saviour for me. I can now pin all my hopes on this and I can say, ha! That's why I'm broken. That's why I'm stuffed.
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Chris
That's why I can't. All those people who said it's all in your head. All those people who said you can get better. Not stuff. You see I am broken. And. And that's the conversation tends to not all time, but most of the time lean that way is like, I need this testing so that I can prove that it's not in my head.
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Chris
This is what's happening, so that I can live the rest of my life on lock anyway, favourite thing to look at is drama triangle. The opposite of a victim is somebody who's a creator. Somebody who takes responsibility for their state, somebody who can see outside the box, somebody who. Who a victim has no agency. A victim thinks I've got no choice in this.
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Chris
I can't do anything about it. stuff. So why even try?
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Chris
To transcend that drama. If you can create, if you can see, see a possibility, if you can, create choices for yourself, take responsibility where and how you can. That's how you get out of this, this drama. I've got a couple of other points, but but I think that's that's a huge one. Is this. I can't do anything about it now.
00:29:21:13 - 00:29:47:23
Chris
That's that's bull crap. You actually can, and I'm not a massive fan of of, lumping people into a boat and just saying, no, this is you've got this gene. It's mutated. So suck it up and have these have a subscription to some supplements for the rest of your life.
00:29:48:01 - 00:29:54:16
Filly
now, like, as I'm listening to Chris, he's put a bit of a sledgehammer. It's like.
00:29:54:18 - 00:29:56:21
Chris
Oopsie.
00:29:56:23 - 00:30:19:21
Filly
by the way, and this is where this is where you can be more victim mentality in a subtle way. So it's pretty rare that someone's going to reach out to us to become a client because they don't they think that they're that they consciously believe that they're broken and fix me. You know, that is never very rarely the language.
00:30:19:23 - 00:30:29:17
Chris
What? Hang on. Wait. Not Phil, he doesn't do the discovery calls. So there's a lot of people who call me and and they they, they don't make it past the gatekeeper.
00:30:29:18 - 00:30:33:02
Filly
Okay, okay. All right. So I guess I, I'm.
00:30:33:02 - 00:30:35:16
Chris
Pretty good at spotting those people.
00:30:35:18 - 00:30:41:14
Filly
Okay, cool. Well, I don't have conversations with those people by the to protect you. By the time they get to what.
00:30:41:16 - 00:30:43:10
Chris
I do, I, I hope they have the gates.
00:30:43:10 - 00:31:14:17
Filly
Beautiful, beautiful souls ready to become their own self. Heal is all right. I will I won't go down that track. but. So Chris is talking about getting stepping out of the drama and so becoming the leader, becoming the creator, becoming the visionary. And this really ties into even if you have a mutated gene, which we all do, you have the ability to choose whether it expresses or not and to create the environment so that it no longer expresses.
00:31:14:17 - 00:31:38:23
Filly
You also have the choice to create an environment where it does express to, Doctor Ben Lynch. He would be like big guru in the genetic space, for functional medicine. And he he has written a book called Dirty Genes. I used to love that book, but now even that title, I'm like all that's a bit hopeless. We all, you have dirty genes.
00:31:38:23 - 00:32:05:07
Filly
It's like, no, you don't. You just have genes. So, Doctor Ben Lynch, I don't like the toddler you book anymore. But what I do like about his, he's content in the work that he has done is that he does talk about you can switch these genes on and you can switch them off too. So some things that you have within your power, again, if we kind of break it down into body, mind, environment.
00:32:05:07 - 00:32:32:12
Filly
So body what's happening in your body that might be causing inflammation. It's all about inflammation and stress that will then switch these mutated genes into expression. So, what are you eating? what are you drinking? How are you drinking and eating? what's your sleep like? How are you moving your body? Have you got other imbalances inside your body that may be causing more stress and inflammation?
00:32:32:12 - 00:33:00:10
Filly
That might be parasites. Candida, toxin overload, all that sort of stuff. And they're all the things that we work with our clients as well, because we're not saying that the physical doesn't matter. It absolutely does physical, metaphysical, it all is connected and we must treat you, your body, and all layers of your body, environment. So then, as I said before, what's happening in your environment?
00:33:00:10 - 00:33:18:08
Filly
Are you living in like a mould pit? Because that's going to express some genes. Are you using a lot of toxic products? Are you maybe in a profession where you're around a lot of toxic products like hairdressing, mechanic, that sort of stuff.
00:33:18:10 - 00:33:19:23
Chris
Nurses, doctors.
00:33:19:23 - 00:33:45:14
Filly
Nurses, doctors? Yeah. Like the amount of sanitising that people put on Covid times. okay. So that's environment. And then you'd also be thinking about toxic relationships and toxic people potentially in your environment too. And then the mind is a big one. So the mind is huge. How are you thinking? How are you feeling? What is your nervous system doing?
00:33:45:14 - 00:34:14:05
Filly
What are the beliefs that you have? How do you identify? Do you identify as a well person or an unwell person or a broken person? doctor Bruce Lipton so he. Yeah, back in the 1970s, he did a few PhDs on microbiology. He was very physical. He was just all around, like cells in the physical body. And anyway, he he was the one that just discovered, that cells there either in thrive or survive mode, they have a little switch.
00:34:14:05 - 00:34:37:23
Filly
They never in between. So if there's any dysfunction happening in the body, that means that the cells are in survival mode. And that was like groundbreaking information back in the 70s. And then his next big question and his next big thesis was, okay, well, what can help the cells switch into thrive mode when that happens? That's when your genes, your mutated genes, no longer express.
00:34:37:23 - 00:35:04:09
Filly
So they just settle down and your body functions normally. Now, all the things that I mentioned before, in terms if you have the power to change your environment, your habits, what you're putting into your body, and your mind, they're all the things that he researched into. And did you know that the biggest thing he discovered that determined whether your cells are in thrive or survive mode?
00:35:04:09 - 00:35:14:14
Filly
So whether your genes are expressing genetically mutated genes are expressing or not is the beliefs and the thoughts you have about yourself.
00:35:14:16 - 00:35:15:17
Filly
Oh.
00:35:15:19 - 00:35:46:02
Filly
Which is huge. And I want to read some quotes from him. because I think that this just really, really dials into you have so much power to create whatever reality you want to create in Cluding the reality of your health in your body. So Bruce says what we think we become, we're not victims of the universe. We are victims of our subconscious programs.
00:35:46:02 - 00:36:13:19
Filly
I don't love that word, by the way. It's just it's like, well, you know what? Even a victim of your subconscious program, it's just your program. And you have the power to recreate that. He also says, we are not victims of our hereditary. We the master of our hereditary, because we can change things and the moment you change your perception is the moment you rewrite the chemistry from your body.
00:36:13:21 - 00:37:03:08
Filly
So literally when you start believing that you have beautiful genes and that you have the blueprint of perfect health, and that you are someone who is so deserving and capable of health, literally your physical chemistry in your body, adrenaline starts calming down, cortisol starts coming down. You start secreting more serotonin and like healing chemicals inside your body, your guts functioning better the moment you change your perception about yourself is the moment you rewrite the chemistry from your body and the moment you change your perception about any stories about your health or the healing process or medicine that is not serving you is the moment you rewrite the chemistry in your body.
00:37:03:10 - 00:37:04:21
Filly
I love that.
00:37:04:23 - 00:37:08:07
Chris
Term.
00:37:08:09 - 00:37:38:03
Filly
oh, I've got a, you know, I've just oh, I want to read one more. Epigenetics doesn't change the genetic code. It changes how that's read perfectly. Normal genes can result in cancer or death, vice versa in the right environment. Mutant genes won't be expressed. Genes are equivalent to blueprints. Epigenetics is the contractor. They change the assembly. The structure.
00:37:38:05 - 00:38:08:13
Filly
And that one's really cool too. Because if you are some way away, you're like, oh my gosh. Yeah, I have a lot of fear around my genes because I have all this information about how screwed up my body's. It's like even genes that aren't mutated can still develop cancer. If you believe that believing that to be true, if you have it in your lifestyle and your behaviours are all creating the environment in which that happens, a real practical example of this would be you're eating a piece of fruit.
00:38:08:15 - 00:38:38:12
Filly
Now, if you eat the fruit with a belief and a perception that sugar is bad and fruit has sugar, so therefore fruit is bad. There's a lot of diets out there that say fruit is bad compared to if you eat a fruit, a piece of fruit with the belief that it is rich in beautiful antioxidants and nutrients. And it's got so much good, healthy fibre, your body is going to have a very different experience digesting and metabolising that piece of fruit.
00:38:38:12 - 00:38:55:13
Filly
Depending on your beliefs and perceptions. Literally, that fruit could make you sick or it could make you very well, depending on what you believe. and I think that that circle.
00:38:55:14 - 00:39:28:14
Chris
And, and and this, this brings, a little block that, that a lot of people might experience. And, and it is, a part of you might not want to hear a part of, you might not want to, to get better. And so therefore, in a myopic, I think that's how you pronounce it, you know, short sighted way, you block yourself off from seeing opportunities to heal you because you get a secondary gain from being sick.
00:39:28:14 - 00:39:51:13
Chris
You get a secondary gain from having a confirmed gene mutation. You get a you get a secondary gain. if, you can use it as an excuse, a reason or whatever. And, for those of you who don't know what that means, go Google it and then watch a couple of our other, podcasts on, limiting beliefs and secondary gains.
00:39:51:15 - 00:40:23:23
Chris
But I think the more you're willing to, to, to look into this, the more you're able to to see, choices everywhere. See, see things that. Yeah, I could work on that. Yeah, I could work on that. And and you open yourself up to to seeing these, these potential things that you can like little bits of stuff that you can sweep up, dust off in, in your, in your heart and in your life and in your, in your wellness mind, body environment.
00:40:24:01 - 00:40:41:14
Chris
and then if, if it's, you know, you can recognise that now's as good a time as any to to do this, declare this might be a, a, you know, low blow road kind of thing, but declare war is just like, you know what I'm going to stand for? I'm not going to stand for this.
00:40:41:14 - 00:40:54:07
Chris
I'm going to, I'm going to actually make a change. I'm going to say enough's enough. I'm going to make a change in my life. I'm willing, I'm able, I'm ready.
00:40:54:09 - 00:40:55:23
Filly
I love it.
00:40:56:01 - 00:40:59:09
Chris
So thanks.
00:40:59:11 - 00:41:17:11
Filly
So, re rewiring your brain now, we're actually holding next month, in September, we're holding a rewire your brain to heal from body burn out. It's a live coaching week. It is free. We did a poll in Facebook and Instagram a few weeks ago with some different topics.
00:41:17:13 - 00:41:20:14
Chris
we did not think that this was going to be the big one.
00:41:20:15 - 00:41:22:17
Filly
Well, I did, but you didn't.
00:41:22:19 - 00:41:24:23
Chris
I did not think that this was going to be the big one.
00:41:24:23 - 00:41:48:02
Filly
But this was by far the most popular. So people wanting to know how to do this and I'll talk a little bit more in a second. I just wanted to finish off the conversation around Jane. Jane, so you can access this healing power when you rewire your brain. And what that actually looks like is challenging your beliefs and actually identifying what are they?
00:41:48:02 - 00:42:19:04
Filly
So what are your beliefs about your genes or possible mutations? And are they causing a self-fulfilling prophecy? And what are the perceived gains and losses? As Chris said before, of being a person with dirty genes? Because they will be, especially if you're holding onto that belief and identity. And when it comes to identity, do you identify as a person with something like me, a mutation or Comt mutation, or a hereditary disease?
00:42:19:06 - 00:42:45:21
Filly
Now, when it comes to identity, it's not pretending that you don't have the gene or that there's this hereditary thing in your family. It's about choosing whether they express or not, and being the type of person who has the power to switch cells from survive to thrive, and therefore switch off gene mutations. When you do that, you do not identify as someone with, the A mutation and it's causing all the issues.
00:42:45:22 - 00:43:10:00
Filly
You're aware of it, that you choose to not have it. And so therefore it switches off. another way to rewire the brain around thought patterns and deeper beliefs is listening to the science of epigenetics. There is so much information out there that you are not. You aren't destined for disease because you have a hereditary or a genetic issue.
00:43:10:05 - 00:43:33:13
Filly
You are not and look for evidence of being healed of both yourself. So evidence that you are healing, but also look for other people who have healed from genes that we're expressing and now they're completely well and analyse how did they do that? But even just being in the space of evidence, your brain is going to say, oh, if they can do it, I can do that.
00:43:33:13 - 00:44:02:16
Filly
Okay. Okay, cool. and if you're part of any Facebook groups or forums where people identify as a person with dirty genes or a specific disease, that might be authority shoes or Crohn's disease or whatever it is, and if it's causing you to solidify that diagnosis as your identity, ditch the Facebook groups. Look. They can be helpful. They can help you get some tools and ideas and support.
00:44:02:16 - 00:44:08:21
Filly
And, you know, sometimes people find us through things like that too. So it can be helpful. But if you feel.
00:44:08:23 - 00:44:13:03
Chris
You don't want to cut off our lead lead generation.
00:44:13:05 - 00:44:34:07
Filly
But if you feel like your diagnosis is now a too tight jacket and that is that is actually a quote from Erin Holt, who I interviewed a couple a month or two ago. If you feel like your diagnosis is a too tight jacket, and that might even be a diagnosis of adrenal fatigue or leaky gut.
00:44:34:08 - 00:44:36:14
Chris
I see what you mean.
00:44:36:16 - 00:44:57:16
Filly
or diabetes, whatever it is. So if you feel like this diagnosis is now a too tight jacket, you're and you're ready to outgrow and create a new reality. You're ready to outgrow this diagnosis. Join us. Say, join us for our free coaching week. In the show notes, I'm going to put a link where you can register for that day one.
00:44:57:16 - 00:45:22:03
Filly
We're going to talk about brain inflammation. So sometimes this is a missing piece when it comes to retraining the brain. And like let's just like change our neural pathways. It's like hang on. We still can't forget the physical side of things if your brain is inflamed, neuroplasticity, it's really hard to restructure any, very inflamed brain. So we're going to talk about why that's the case and what to do if your brain is inflamed.
00:45:22:04 - 00:45:50:22
Filly
Day two we're going to talk about your patterns. So how to rewire the brain. So it's not a Band-Aid approach because again this is you know, sometimes we have clients who have come to us who have done a specific brain retraining course, and they've got nothing. And when you dig into it, it's like, oh, okay, so you were ticking off, you were doing the practices or the exercises, but all the same patterns of why you're stuck in body burnout and symptomatic is still there, and all those beliefs is still there.
00:45:50:22 - 00:46:15:19
Filly
So we're really going to go into that side of things on day two. And day three. We're going to look at how you can rewire pain signals and create new neural pathways of safety in your brain and your body, and essentially switch off symptoms. And this is leading up to, launch week for ending our ending body burnout method, which is our signature program, our healing accelerator.
00:46:15:20 - 00:46:42:09
Filly
It is awesome. It's really going into deep root root cause medicine. So it's a great chance to try before you buy. Do you like the way that we coach in the way that we we heal, we, not heal. Our clients are doing the healing. Do you like our approach and or. Sorry. I'll pop in the show notes, a link to our waitlist.
00:46:42:11 - 00:47:03:10
Filly
because if you're on the waitlist for the ending body burnout method, you will get first dibs. They are limited spaces. This isn't just a course, it's a program which includes one on ones, consults and coaching. And we have two different service options for that, but both of them still include one one. So we really can only, let in so many people.
00:47:03:14 - 00:47:10:08
Filly
And also you will get access to early bed bonuses if you're on the waitlist and you join before doors open.
00:47:10:10 - 00:47:20:19
Chris
Boom. All right, guys, thank you so much for joining us today. In this episode. We will see you on the next one.
00:47:20:21 - 00:47:30:23
Filly
Thank you so much for listening. We so appreciate you. If you'd like to give us extra smiles, drop us a review and spread the love by sharing this episode.
00:47:31:01 - 00:47:49:08
Chris
You can also write your own state of burnout and the root cause contributors by taking our Ending Body Burnout assessment on our website and if you're interested in learning about our group or one on one ending body burnout programs, shoot us a DM via Instagram or Facebook. Hey, have the best day ever!
