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Chris
Hello and welcome to the ending Buddy Burnout show. We are your host, Chris and Filly, co-founders of a multi winning functional medicine practice serving busy people with energy, mood and gut issues.
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Filly
Well, business, addictive doing, people pleasing and perfectionism might be the norm. It's not normal and it's a major contributor to health issues.
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Chris
Our goal with this show is to give you a holistic root root cause approach to healing your body so that you don't have to continue doctor or diet hopping or popping a gazillion supplements hoping something might stick.
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Filly
So get ready to heal your body. Get your spark back deeply, connect with yourself, and step into the life of your dreams.
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Chris
Let's dive in.
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Filly
Hello everybody! I am really, really excited. I know I say this all the time when we start a podcast. I just love podcasting. I love the solo episodes. I love the episodes with just Chris and I. I especially love client episodes where we have clients come and share their story and you are getting one of those dropping in your ear lobes, earlobes in your ears.
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Filly
He holds next week. But today I've got a really special guest coming on to our podcast. Now she has a special place in my heart, because this is actually one of my personal mentors that I have worked with that has really taught me and mentored me in healing trauma. So on the potty today we have Judith Richards.
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Filly
She is the founder and creator of the Riches Trauma Process, also known as trauma. And you might have heard about us mentioned this modality in past episodes, with clients or when we've just been talking about different ways that you can resolve, trauma that gets stuck in your unconscious mind and affects your physical body. It's an amazing modality, you know, ending body burn out method.
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Filly
It is holistic. And it's not just one thing that gets results. So we're working on both the physical body and lab testing and supplementing and supporting body systems so that they can start resetting and healing. But the deeper work happens in what we call the metaphysical side of healing. So that's really looking at why the body systems burnt out in the first place, and or why are the body systems not responding to physical protocols.
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Filly
And the answer to that lies in the baggage, in the unconscious mind that is keeping the nervous system in the adrenal glands, in the brain in a fight flight response. And so one of those things that can become baggage in the unconscious mind is unprocessed trauma. And we created the ending body burn out method. I don't know, quite a few years ago.
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Filly
And I felt like there was a little bit of a missing piece inside the method that really addressed deep unresolved trauma. So when I first witness the power of TTP, again, it was a few years ago, I had a new client do TTP with another practitioner while we were waiting to get lab test results back. When she came back for her next consult to go over the lab test results at the start of the lab review concept, I'll always just gauge how are you, how are you feeling?
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Filly
A symptom still the same. Is there anything that's better or anything that's change? Anything that's worse? And she sat there and she said, all my symptoms have disappeared. My anxiety, my depression, my fatigue, my brain fog, my gut issues. And she was also off her ADHD and antidepressant medication. And my mind was blown. I knew I had to learn TTP myself and incorporate it into our holistic approach to end body burnout, to really help our clients get faster and more effective results.
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Filly
So now inside our method, if you join the method, which, by the way, opens up our signature program, six Month Healing accelerated program only opens doors three times a year, and we're about to open doors in a couple of weeks. So it's super exciting time for us now. If you joined the one on one private option for the ending body burnout method, all of our clients in that program and in that option automatically receive TTP.
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Filly
So that is just included in your in your package in the program, if you choose the semi-private ending body burnout method program, that includes a combination of group coaching plus monthly one on one consults with myself. But it doesn't have enough space or time to really take someone through the TTP process, which can only be done in a, very in-depth tier, one on one setting.
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Filly
So in saying that if you are a keen brain and you've been watching us and you've got your name on the white lace for the ending body burnout method, and after we talk, or you listen to this episode, you're like, oh, I'd really love to, to really clear my trauma, but I can't afford the one on one private.
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Filly
That's okay. Semi private clients can add on step as part of their healing journey. Not all clients do. A lot of clients get great results just following our our signature method without TTP. But it is a great modality in our toolbox that we pull out for certain clients who might be feeling really stuck, or who need more one on one in-depth guidance and hand holding in a beautiful way, in a safe way to really resolve deep seated trauma.
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Filly
Anyway. So, pop your name on the waitlist, by the way, if you're on the waitlist, we do open doors in a couple of weeks. You can get first dibs of grabbing a spot. We only have limited spaces because, as I mentioned, the private one and one in the semi-private options. Both include a one on one support.
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Filly
So we have limited spaces, and you'll also have an opportunity to grab $500 worth of early bird bonuses. If you are, join before doors open officially and we will send out an email to our clients on the waitlist. Oh. Not yet. Clients. Possible clients on the waitlist. Another thing to before we jump into the episode, it's just an announcement that in a couple of weeks, we'll also be holding a live coaching experience, which is a free experience, and we're going to be helping you to rewire your brain to heal body burn out.
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Filly
This is calm due to popular demand. A lot of people are asking for this specific coaching and training. So Chris and I have been putting together a really awesome, coaching experience for you. It is free. It's a great way to to experience our holistic approach for healing, to see if you vibe with ourselves, vibe. And even if you're not interested in joining the program or working with us, if you attend the free experience and you show up present and are open, there are many people who have got so much transformation, maybe it hasn't solved all their issues, but it's just help them to the next step in their healing journey.
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Filly
So we're really excited about holding that. Okay, now officially, who is Judith Richards? So she's the creator of the Richards Trauma process or TTP, born out of her journey of resolving decades of severe abuse and trauma. For many years, she suffered extreme physical and mental illness as a result of her psychological trauma and physical injuries, and she never gave up.
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Filly
With great courage and determination, she persisted, learning and discovering that there is a way to capture a life worth living. There is a way to the other side of trauma and its myriad symptoms. The result of this journey is the richest trauma process. TTP is fast, effective, and safe. It resolves the issues of extreme trauma and is equally as effective in dealing with lower levels of anxiety, depression, fees and phobias, and burnout.
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Filly
Any issue which is trauma related. Judith now teaches TTP to mental health professionals. Okay, let's jump into today's episode. Welcome everyone to the podcast today. I am so excited for our guest today, the wonderful Judith Richards, who is one of my awesome mentors and a true trauma therapist. And we're going to dive right into trauma and especially the connection between trauma and body burnout.
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Filly
Thanks so much for coming on to the show, Judith.
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Judith
It's a delight to be with you, Filipa.
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Filly
Awesome. So we love when we have guests coming on to our podcast to just get straight into the person know stuff, because often we find that a lot of people who end up in this, whether it's holistic health or trauma, there's often your own story has become part of what you do. So you have to start there. Why you why do you do what you do?
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Filly
And your own story.
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Judith
Why I do what I do? I have no choice. I am morally compelled. I've been on my deathbed a few times, and I don't want to be there again, thinking, well, that was a waste of time. Yeah. So why did I come into this? Because I had a ridiculous life story. So I had a life of pretty extreme trauma.
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Judith
I had an interesting family. Interesting. A wonderful, weird. There was a lot of trauma and there that I wasn't going to. Yeah, we were Catholic, so some priests took a keen interest in me as a child. I went to a Catholic girls school for high school in my early teenage years, I was groomed and sexually abused by a nun and hear a lot about the nuns.
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Judith
But, yeah, they're into it, too. And and I just. Yeah. By the time I was a late teenager, I just about to introduce myself. Hi. I'm due to attract violent lunatics. What can I say? It's a gift.
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Filly
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Judith
So then various abusive relationships. I worked my way up through the hierarchy of violent nutters. Until I found myself with a doozy. Who was very, very violent. Lots of things happened in that decade which left my body very, very damaged. And then I spent a couple of years in and out of hospital. The surgeons put my body back together as best I could and said, I've been chronic ill health and chronic pain for the rest of what would probably be a very short life.
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Judith
So that was in 99 and I'm still standing.
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Filly
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Judith
And after that I went into great physical decline. And mental and emotional breakdown. And I found myself living with several personalities, living in hallucinations, living in flashbacks, completely non-functional, bankrupt, okay, disability pension and out of my head. I lived in Maloney. Those Australian listeners might know where that is. I lived above the shoe shop in Milan.
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Judith
As any person who lived above the shops. The kids in Milan called me Mel, my Beanie Lady, because I'd walk up and down the streets talking a thousand miles an hour, saying the same thing again and again till I get lost. And then some kind soul would show me home.
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Filly
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Judith
So I was pretty insane. And I found a way to, restore myself to good health. And people saw me get well pretty quickly and they brought their loved ones. So I just put them through what I had done. They got well, more people came, more people came. There was an event where there was a trauma. Professor of trauma.
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Judith
I forget what he was, but he ended up in hospital and he wasn't available to present. And someone asked me to present, so I don't present. I said, you do now. And so I presented that day. And at the end of that, people wanted to learn from me. I said, I don't teach. They said, we do now. And, the rest, as they say, is history.
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Judith
Psychiatrist in that first group of 12 who I took through a training program, I reverse engineered what I was doing. She cleared her books in five weeks. She was a PTSD specialist. And, the receptionists in the big medical centre where she practised sent a delegation to ask her, what are you prescribing now? Is it legal? And are we implicated by being on the premises because we've been seeing your patients coming for many, many years and now they're walking out.
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Judith
Well, what are you giving them? Is they going to be a drug bust? She explained she wasn't giving them drugs. And so that was in July 2014. So it's ten years now that I've been teaching many, many, many hundreds, over a thousand now of practitioners.
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Filly
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Judith
And they're getting generally getting extraordinary results. People say where's the research. It's taken this nearly seven years to get ethics approval from Melbourne University to begin our research. The pilot study will be up for publishing around October.
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Filly
Oh it's exciting.
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Judith
Yeah.
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Filly
Yeah. I'm pretty sure I've said this, story with you that I came across TTP. So this is fed trauma therapy process that Judith is talking about. We'll dig that into that in a second. But I met a practitioner, TTP practitioner through a business group, and she just said, if you have any clients, you know, with PTSD or trauma, send them through.
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Filly
And I remember there was one client, she had an initial consult with me, and we were doing some lab tests that we do in functional medicine. And while we were waiting to get test results back, she went into Fe, she came back and all her symptoms were gone, like anxiety, depression, female hormone issues, gut issues. She was even off ADHD medication, anti-depressants.
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Filly
And I was just like, what is this magic? What is going on here in such a short amount of time? And now I see that with our own clients taking them through TTP, it's just extraordinary how fast trauma can be cleared with the process. So thank you.
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Judith
You're welcome.
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Filly
Thank you for the gift. Sometimes people are a little bit sus in terms of all. Will this really work? Like it sounds a little bit to. Yeah, like a bit too good to be true. And with each one of those clients, I do share our story. I'm like, Judith has come from the worst of the worst. She was so traumatised that she was the bin lady.
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Filly
I use that phrase as well and no training. She healed herself and now thousands of other people do too. So it's it's pretty extraordinary. And yes, it can happen really fast.
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Judith
Yeah. And it's sad that because now I speak to thousands of people every year and particularly mental health professionals, I well, that's impossible.
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Filly
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Judith
I say, isn't that sad that the bar is so low? That people expect it to take years, at least months and months and months of painful work to get. Well, and even then, you know, I have so many I've had in the past, so many clients coming. They know I have complex PTSD. And I've been told by, you know, seven psychiatrist that I'll never be.
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Judith
Well, the best I can hope for is to learn to manage my symptoms. As I and this psychiatrist gave me your name and said you could maybe help me manage my symptoms a little bit more effectively, that's not what I do so well. I was told what you do. I said, oh well, others would know then I said, no, but I know I can't ever be cured.
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Judith
I, you know, I'll always be like this, I said, so has that belief working for you? So well what do you do. I said we just fix the bastard.
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Judith
As long as you throw yourself in.
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Filly
So can you talk about what trauma actually is then. And why. Kind of the approach of talk therapy or CBT takes a really long time if it even works at all.
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Judith
It's really sad that it takes a long time if it works at all. I work with a lot of,
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Judith
I remember the third group I taught and I was driving to the venue because in those days we did live workshops and I was looking at the CVS of these very learned, very educated people. Nearly all of them had at least one doctorate. Some had to. And for those who don't know, my my background was in music.
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Judith
Art went to Conservatory of Music, I did classical piano, and then I became a stage manager for opera companies. And I had a huge con crisis of confidence, and I walked into this room nearly in tears. Why are you people here? You should be teaching me. Some of you have learnt from the top experts in trauma in the world and you're hit.
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Judith
Do you know I'm not even a psychologist? I play the piano.
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Judith
And, I said, why are you here? And we went around the room. Why are you here? And they all said exactly the same thing. You know, most of them said, know I've got a PhD in CBT, cognitive behavioural therapy. We call it crappy bloody therapy. So can you just shut up and get on with it? CBT, cognitive.
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Judith
Cognitive behavioural therapy. The idea behind that, is that if you can change how you think, if you can really understand what's happened. So let's look at it from every angle. So you really understand it. Why do you think that person did that to you? What was going on in them that they did that to you? Yeah. Let's look at it from every let's talk about it and talk about it and talk about it so that you can understand it cognitively, which then will probably make you feel differently about it, which will probably change your behaviours around it.
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Judith
And that's fine. But the cognitive brain works only 5% of the time, and trauma is stored in the unconscious in that part. That is 95%. Do the maths. Using 5% to control the 95% doesn't add up, does it? And so it takes a long time. Most of the mental health professionals that I've taught, I've said they're just frustrated.
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Judith
Some of them have said I lie in bed in shame and I have some clients. I just don't know what to do. I have no idea what to do. And they keep coming back for years. And I don't know what to do.
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Filly
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Judith
So that's most of the talk therapies. That's how they work, you know, look at it from every angle. And what happens then? Neuroscience 101 is neurones that fire together, wire together. So what happens is you've got the story. So you've got this neurone path and more and more neurones come and join the party. And that little pathway becomes a superhighway.
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Judith
The more you talk about it, the worse it gets. And at some professional mental health, people think that, you know, eventually the person's not being triggered when they talk about it. Yay, success! But they don't understand that the vagus nerve is just shut down. You get people just going numb. You get blunted affect. There's no expression on the face.
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Judith
The voice is a monotone. There's just nothing going on there. That's how it is. And I think, yeah, it's a success. It's not a success. That's a shut down. The same with, exposure therapy, which is part of CBT, which is torture. You expose the person again and again to what happened. I've had soldiers come in the middle of that process.
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Judith
One guy, he said, you're my last stop because I'm not going back to that psychiatrist because I'm under the next train at the end of the road.
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Filly
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Judith
If you can't help me, I'm out of here. He didn't say so calmly. It was quite hysterical. And then there's ICT acceptance and commitment therapy. Well, I just accept that I'm fucked and I commit to carrying on regardless. I'm sorry, people, I do curse. The language of trauma is real and raw. So these processes deal with the conscious mind.
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Judith
Trauma is stored in the unconscious. Tatp deals with trauma where it is stored and in the unconscious. And we speak to the unconscious in the language of the unconscious. What's the language of the unconscious? It's the imagination with just two words. Just imagine at the critical facility steps aside and we are right in the in the unconscious. And the unconscious believes what we originally imagined.
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Judith
Lemon, which try this with me, people. Imagine you got a really drippy, really sour wedge of lemon. You know, one of those fresh winter ones straight off a tree. And so sour. And there's so much juice. And my body is responding as if I really have a piece of lemon. And lot of you will be having the same effect with your mirror neurones and your own imagination.
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Judith
So we use this facility into tepee to step the client through various imagined scenarios. We said the client, the richer you make your internal experience, the more profound will be your outcome. Really imagined richly. And with that, we turn off the distress. So what is trauma? Trauma comes from the Greek word. That word trauma comes from the Greek word, which means wounding.
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Judith
Trauma isn't necessarily what happened to us. As Gabor Maté explains so eloquently, Gabor Matter is one of the top trauma experts in the world, and if you watch him, you will see his blunted effect.
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Judith
Trauma is the wound. It's our internal experience of what happened to us.
00:24:08:04 - 00:24:26:02
Judith
And like with any wound, we can have a wound on our shoulder and it will scar over. And that skin will be thick. It will have no nerve endings. So with trauma, we often get that blunting, that blunted effect that.
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Judith
Disconnection from self disconnection is key in trauma. Disconnection from self disconnection from others is an isolation. Trauma is not so much what happens to us, but being alone in that distress. There might be lots of other people there, you know, in the in the summer of bushfires, there are other people there. But our internal experience is one of being very isolated, very alone.
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Judith
And so and that scarring over happens over time. And we get inflexibility. We're stuck in that trauma. We get stuck at that time. What actually happens is that event doesn't get stored in long term memory in the door shot. And oh, let's get on with what else is on today. It gets stuck in the unconscious like a video tape loop, like a trauma loop.
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Judith
You feel like it's happening now. It's happening now. It's happening now. And with the wound like okay, here's a non wounded shoulder, you can give me a good week. You can give me a nice friendly punch on the shoulder. But you touch this one.
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Judith
It's all. It's scarred over but it hasn't properly healed. And so what happens is we touch it and we pull away. We react. We call it being triggered. What's actually happening is I am responding not to what's happening now, but I'm responding as if that is happening now. So we over respond. We overreact because we're not just talking about what's happening here.
00:26:21:10 - 00:26:31:13
Judith
But that event when I was three and when I was nine, and when I was 17 and I was 22, and people say, oh, but you're just being so sensitive.
00:26:31:15 - 00:26:46:09
Judith
You know, it was 12 years ago. Get over it. Well, I know it was 12 years ago. I know that here. But in my body, in my being, it's happening now.
00:26:46:11 - 00:27:09:10
Judith
And so I'm over reactive. I pull away from the pain because that wound is still there. And I'm responding not to now but to then. So what do we have to do. I have to turn off then turn it off. Turn it off, turn it off. Put it all. In the warehouse of long term memory. Shut the door.
00:27:09:13 - 00:27:16:04
Judith
Yeah. It's over and I'm safe now.
00:27:16:06 - 00:27:18:13
Judith
So there we go. Long explanation.
00:27:18:15 - 00:27:47:18
Filly
No it's an awesome explanation I think I until I experienced it myself. It's hard to understand that you can actually heal things from the past. And it doesn't even have to be part of the scar anymore. Like, it's almost like it. It happened. It's in the long term memory. The hippocampus, bit like it literally just happened. And there's no charge around it anymore in your mind or in your body.
00:27:47:19 - 00:28:10:19
Filly
A big one for me. So I'd already done a lot of work, but when I first became a practitioner in TTP, we go through the process as a client. So I had, some great mentors who took me through. And I've shared this with you before, Judith, but for the listeners, remember, send significant money blocks like shifted in the moment.
00:28:11:01 - 00:28:32:13
Filly
My brain like I've done enough work that I could I knew that I was triggered and then I could reframe and then I could self regulate. And I thought that that was kind of as good as it got. But after doing to even the very first session and there's three parts in TRT like my brain, the thoughts were completely different.
00:28:32:13 - 00:28:56:22
Filly
It was just like, oh, money's just money. It's just energy. It's just currency. It's got my back. It's my friend. It's good. As opposed to it's a scary monster. It was just extraordinary that like literally in the short, in the space of less than an hour, the unconscious baggage had removed so that my thoughts were completely different. So cool.
00:28:57:00 - 00:28:58:02
Judith
It's pretty cool.
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Filly
It's so cool. And was saying that countless times. Like a lot of people we work with have health anxiety as part of that combination of things that are going on. It's very common. When someone's had a lot of health issues, then the health issue becomes the trauma, and then health anxiety becomes a very big part of the the cycle of keeping their body stuck in flight, flight.
00:29:19:12 - 00:29:42:12
Filly
But I'm thinking of a few clients where it's like, literally I don't talk to Google anymore. Like that was my daily pattern of I've got a sensation. What's the worst thing that's happening? Why am I sick that that thought pattern and that that compulsion to want to do that gone, completely gone. They didn't even have to try to force it to stop happening.
00:29:42:14 - 00:29:47:17
Judith
Yep. So circle and that's the thing. You don't have to manage it.
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Filly
Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:48:21 - 00:29:51:00
Judith
It's it's no longer something to manage.
00:29:51:00 - 00:30:18:01
Filly
Yeah. It's so cool. Can we talk about the big T versus little tater makers maybe. Like I'm thinking that some people listening might be thinking, oh, but I wasn't sexually abused or I didn't have domestic violence or I wasn't in a war. What are your thoughts around that in terms of can still help people who might not have had significant trauma happen to them, or thought?
00:30:18:06 - 00:30:46:09
Judith
I was talking to a young woman yesterday, actually daughter of a friend. And we got a coffee and sat in the park and she said, but nothing's happened to me. Nothing. You know, I had a loving family and nothing happened. And she has high anxiety and OCD and blah, blah, blah.
00:30:46:11 - 00:30:56:15
Judith
It doesn't have to be what happened to us. And I don't have trauma.
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Judith
But I had an older sibling who was disabled. And I knew that her needs came first. I had no problem with that. I love her.
00:31:13:05 - 00:31:35:18
Judith
I was fine that I, you know, that I came second and I was overlooked and it didn't matter that my needs didn't matter. I understood that, of course I understood that Mum and dad were always busy with her and her needs and and they needed their time out as well. And, you know, it's not so much what happens to her.
00:31:35:18 - 00:32:08:18
Judith
It can be just as much what didn't happen, what needs did we as a tiny person have that weren't met, that were overlooked, put aside? You know what we seen as a burden? But we heard where we seen. Where we loved and cuddled when we were in pain and distress.
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Judith
Was it okay when we were scared at night to go into mum and dad?
00:32:14:15 - 00:32:37:14
Judith
Was it okay for us to vent our frustration? To get angry? To get sad? What were the rules in the family? The cultural dynamics? You're not allowed to be anything but positive. There are some of those families. Let's be super positive. Oh, mum, I think it might. Right. Don't be negative.
00:32:37:16 - 00:32:46:22
Judith
Now I'm just making an observation. No, that's negative. I mean, you know, I'm exaggerating a little, but there are families where they're the super happy, super positive people.
00:32:47:00 - 00:32:48:07
Filly
00:32:48:08 - 00:33:00:07
Judith
And the training, the cultural training in some families of it's noble to put your own needs last.
00:33:00:09 - 00:33:22:20
Judith
You know I wish I had that you know, and I was a Catholic. Good dose of guilt goes with that as well. You know you being so selfish put your aren't you don't matter. You must serve others with all that you are. Don't ever put yourself first. And when we get. I was listening to now who was it the other day on a podcast talking about this very thing?
00:33:22:20 - 00:33:47:15
Judith
There was a long a 20 year study done of about 10,000 women. On who got cancer and who didn't. And it's really interesting that the women who got cancer generally breast cancer, may I say their obituaries generally read the same.
00:33:47:17 - 00:33:50:14
Judith
She put everyone's needs before her own.
00:33:50:16 - 00:33:51:02
Filly
00:33:51:04 - 00:34:09:23
Judith
She was available day or night. She never had a bad word to say about anything, about anyone. She never put herself first. She never complained. She never got cross. No one ever, in all her life, saw her get cross. What a saint. She is dead in the ground.
00:34:10:00 - 00:34:12:15
Filly
00:34:12:16 - 00:34:24:23
Judith
There's a big correlation between people, not just women. Because you can read the men's a bit. Theresa, with that at the same as this guy did. Must find that podcast.
00:34:25:01 - 00:34:25:22
Filly
00:34:26:21 - 00:34:33:21
Judith
I think it was Gabor. Once again. Gabor met Day.
00:34:33:23 - 00:34:37:01
Judith
It's not honourable to forego self-care.
00:34:37:03 - 00:34:39:18
Filly
00:34:39:19 - 00:34:57:01
Judith
It's not honourable to not get angry. It's healthy to get angry. It's healthy to know what we need. You know, and in burnout which is your speciality area for the problem.
00:34:57:02 - 00:34:59:17
Filly
00:34:59:18 - 00:35:09:21
Judith
If we don't say no strongly no. No more. No our body will say it for us.
00:35:10:00 - 00:35:13:14
Filly
00:35:13:15 - 00:35:39:13
Filly
Yeah. I see it all the time, a lot of, a lot of rescuing people, pleasing patterns connected to burnout and trauma. So like essentially I feel like what you're saying is every human being has trauma and would and will benefit from dislodging it from their system.
00:35:39:15 - 00:35:51:12
Judith
Yeah, yeah. And if we take away the way the word trauma, and say distress because people think wars, refugees torture.
00:35:51:14 - 00:35:53:04
Filly
00:35:53:06 - 00:36:18:03
Judith
It can be, you know, when I was a kid it was I had to be not seen, not heard, just. Yeah you're a nuisance. Just run away. It can be those and it doesn't have to be big things. It can be little everyday traumas that the teacher who used to humiliate you in front of the classroom in grade one, the bullies in the playground.
00:36:18:05 - 00:36:20:01
Judith
It doesn't have to be big.
00:36:20:03 - 00:36:21:08
Filly
00:36:21:10 - 00:36:37:23
Judith
And it's really worth asking ourselves and having a few moments by ourselves with a nice cup of tea, because we know a cup of tea fixes everything. And just so what am I not saying no to in my life?
00:36:38:01 - 00:36:58:06
Judith
What should I be saying no to? Whether that's continuing to go to family events, which I just find so distressing or whatever it is, what is it that I'm not saying no to?
00:36:58:08 - 00:36:59:06
Filly
Yeah.
00:36:59:08 - 00:37:02:12
Judith
And then what is it I should be saying yes to?
00:37:02:14 - 00:37:03:21
Filly
00:37:03:22 - 00:37:06:04
Judith
It's a great place to start for anyone listening.
00:37:06:06 - 00:37:29:15
Filly
Yeah, it's a great place to start. And also, I think, be curious around the emotions, sensations that come up when you ponder that, because if there's unconscious baggage, then that will feel really unsafe when it's like, oh, I do feel like I want to say no to my family. But what's happening in my body right now?
00:37:29:17 - 00:37:37:12
Judith
And listen to the words should is a dead giveaway. Yeah, I should be doing that.
00:37:37:14 - 00:37:38:08
Filly
Yeah.
00:37:38:10 - 00:37:42:10
Judith
Yeah. Why is it true? Is it true is a wonderful question.
00:37:42:11 - 00:37:43:11
Filly
00:37:43:13 - 00:37:50:01
Judith
I shouldn't be doing that. Is it true.
00:37:50:03 - 00:37:56:14
Filly
Why am. So good.
00:37:56:16 - 00:37:57:12
Judith
At.
00:37:57:14 - 00:38:08:20
Filly
Imagination. So you mentioned imagination before language of the unconscious mind. And it's also a big part of clearing trauma in the TTP process.
00:38:08:22 - 00:38:10:18
Judith
Yep. Absolutely.
00:38:10:20 - 00:38:26:19
Filly
Can you share how that can apply to the physical body as well. So if someone is struggling with physical symptoms they might be even scans, blood tests, lab tests that are actually showing that there's a physical issue.
00:38:26:21 - 00:38:27:13
Judith
Yeah.
00:38:27:15 - 00:38:45:12
Filly
How can we harness the power of the imagination for healing? We're by the way, very smiling because it's like, yes, when people have this knowledge of how to you and you're happy to share, because I know that you've had some ordinary personal experiences around physical healing.
00:38:45:14 - 00:39:18:12
Judith
And there will be people watching this who are having a really hard time, and my heart goes out to you. It's exhausting, isn't it, Todd? And you have a superpower that perhaps you weren't even aware that you have. We all have this superpower called the imagination. And just as with the lemon, we can use that superpower.
00:39:18:14 - 00:39:51:06
Judith
We have the greatest form pharmaceutical engine in the universe here in our brain. For every thought we release chemicals, different types of chemicals won't go into the physiology lesson about that, but let's just focus on imagination. The body and the unconscious believes what we richly imagine. And I'll say it again, because it's really important. The body in the unconscious absolutely believes what we richly imagine.
00:39:51:08 - 00:40:21:18
Judith
So, for example, a while back I was diagnosed with a hydra. Syphilis or hydrocephalus. Tomato, tomato. However you want to say it, due to, a number of traumatic brain injuries. So what is this thing? Hydro? I mean, something about water, doesn't it? In the spinal column, we have fluid. Spinal fluid. And there's a very slow pump that pumps that spinal fluid up the spine and around the brain.
00:40:21:18 - 00:40:47:08
Judith
It washes the brain, bathes the brain, and comes out again. This is constant, very slow pump in hydrocephalus. What happens is the the fluid goes in, but it doesn't come out. Oh dear. There's a bit of a problem there because there's more and more fluid in the brain. In a baby's brain, the baby's head just gets bigger and bigger because the plates aren't fused.
00:40:47:10 - 00:41:15:03
Judith
And then the baby generally dies in an adult's head, the plates are fused and the pressure just builds up and up. So we have seizures and then we die. So I was having seizures and, went to the neurologist. And the neurologist, of course, wanted to drill holes and drain the fluid. And I did some research and found that, the main symptom of that is early dementia and early death.
00:41:15:07 - 00:41:36:03
Judith
The death I don't mind. I've done three times, and I'm just telling you it's it's a wonderful experience. We've all got something wonderful to look forward to, but it's just the early dementia. I wasn't keen on. I came home and looked at myself in the mirror. And what are you thinking? Haven't we had enough? We're not doing this dementia thing.
00:41:36:05 - 00:41:59:14
Judith
You've got a week, a week to fix this. I'm not having it. And every morning I'd get. In those days there was film of the scan and I'd get it and I'd see all the black, which was the fluid in the brain. And I would imagine that for about ten minutes every morning, I would imagine that draining out.
00:41:59:16 - 00:42:17:18
Judith
And then I would say to the unconscious in my body, I have work to do. There are people depending on me. I can't sit here all day, but you can continue to do that. This we have seven days, six days, five days. And at night I would say to the unconscious, the body and I are going to sleep now, but you never sleep.
00:42:17:20 - 00:42:37:18
Judith
Just keep draining this fluid. Put it back how it should be. That pump going brilliantly. Fluid going in fluid coming out of the brain. Keep doing that while we sleep. We have four days, three days, two days. Then I went and got another scan. After a week, went back to the neurologist. He said, where'd you get the scan done?
00:42:37:20 - 00:42:58:03
Judith
And I told him and he was on the phone straight away saying, my patient has hydrocephalus. The scan I have is if someone who doesn't have that. So there's been a mix up. Can you please find the right scan for me? Thank you very much. Bang! And I looked over his shoulder at his screen that had my name, and I picked up my bag.
00:42:58:03 - 00:43:13:11
Judith
I said, thank you very much. Said, where are you going as I'm coming home? I said, no, you're not. You're booked for surgery in the morning. I said, see that? That's my name. That's my brain. I'm done by. He said, that's impossible. You can't do that. I said, well.
00:43:13:13 - 00:43:39:18
Judith
So a body now unconscious believes what we richly imagine. I also had kidney problems for most of my life up until recent years, because I was born with one kidney that was two thirds bigger than the other. And so I'd get kidney infections because it wouldn't drain properly. And I started using my imagination to imagine that kidney shrink shrunk down to the right size and working perfectly.
00:43:39:18 - 00:44:01:19
Judith
And I would have an ultrasound about every 12 months to see the state of this terrible kidney and whether they were going to take it at this time, because I always wanted to take it out and I wouldn't let them. I was very, very attached to my kidney. And, imagine my joy when the ultrasound guy said, oh, rule over love.
00:44:01:21 - 00:44:26:00
Judith
He's got the wrong one. Nothing wrong with this. It must be the other one. I went, yes. And then he brought them both up on the screen and said, not these are. There's nothing wrong with these kidneys. He must have got mixed up with another patient. I'll give him a ring. So, Yeah, our body and our unconscious believes what we originally imagined.
00:44:26:02 - 00:44:39:01
Judith
Let's see. And we can use that facility to help our body because we're actually, you know, if you read any quantum physics.
00:44:39:03 - 00:45:03:13
Judith
We're just energy. And our intention has been it's been proven with quantum physics now, quantum mechanics that our intention impacts matter, impacts that energy. And we're actually much more powerful than we ever imagined. So if you're not well.
00:45:03:15 - 00:45:10:06
Judith
Using your imagination can can be a big benefit.
00:45:10:08 - 00:45:12:05
Filly
I circle.
00:45:12:07 - 00:45:13:04
Judith
00:45:13:06 - 00:45:39:09
Filly
Where I like a couple of things around that so richly imagining I imagine too, because some people like again, sometimes I share your story and they like I do like I every day I visualise my body healing, but it hasn't worked. So I feel like there's there's some other components in that. Did you like from a belief point of view, were you just completely like, this is going to work, I can heal myself.
00:45:39:10 - 00:45:45:20
Judith
Okay, okay, there are a couple of keys.
00:45:45:22 - 00:46:16:17
Judith
A lot of people will be familiar with the movie The Secret. That was based on the book by Wallace de wattles, written in 1909. I don't know how he knew about quantum physics. Then, but the basis of the book was was that and had to imagine things into being. And there's been a lot of courses and everything on the Law of Attraction, and there's lots of courses on manifestation.
00:46:16:19 - 00:46:46:18
Judith
And there's a couple of things that are left out of those. So. You know, earlier I mentioned that the conscious mind works 5% of the time. The unconscious is going 95% of the time. And we can consciously with that 5% of our mind go, yeah, I'm going to do whatever is required to be well, whether that's physically or mentally, whatever way I'm going to really work at this kind of focus, do whatever is required.
00:46:46:20 - 00:46:53:09
Judith
Well, that's great though. You high five.
00:46:53:11 - 00:47:23:04
Judith
But if the unconscious that 95% is not, you're dreaming. And for whatever reason, and there are lots of good reasons what the why the unconscious would say no, we're not going to do this wellness thing. It may be because if you're, well, you'll be out in the world. It's not safe out there. So I'm going to keep you sick in bed or with agoraphobia or whatever.
00:47:23:06 - 00:47:39:14
Judith
I'm going to make sure that you have panic attacks when you go to drive the car. So you can't go anywhere. Okay? I'm going to keep you safe. It can be something like that. It can be something else completely different. Some other benefit. But if I'm. Well, I might have to get a job. Not keen on that idea.
00:47:39:14 - 00:47:59:08
Judith
There's lots of reasons. Not saying that everyone is sick is a mullingar. Not at all, I certainly wasn't, but the key here is if the unconscious is disagreeing with the conscious mind about being, well, not.
00:47:59:10 - 00:48:25:04
Judith
There's no way we'll be well. There's nothing we can do consciously. It doesn't matter what surgeries we have, what pharmaceuticals we have, how many vitamins we have, how much good, healthy, organic food we eat. We will not be well unless the unconscious and the conscious mind are in agreement and in sync. Yeah, that's why we sabotage ourselves. We don't wake up one day and go, yep, I'm going to sabotage my health.
00:48:25:04 - 00:48:28:18
Judith
It's a good day for.
00:48:28:20 - 00:48:53:02
Judith
We don't do that. Yeah, it's a great day for sabotaging my relationship. I think this is the week I should sabotage my career. We don't do that. We're not stupid. But we have to get that conscious mind. That 5% having the unconscious, that 95% in agreement with the outcome that we want.
00:48:53:04 - 00:48:53:16
Filly
00:48:53:18 - 00:49:26:03
Judith
Otherwise it's just never going to happen. Doesn't matter what we do. So that's the first thing to have to make sure your unconscious is on board of. Yes. It's safe to be. Well yes. It's time to be well and have the whole lot going. Yay. Let's do this as the first thing. The next thing is to go into the future in your imagination and live being well.
00:49:26:05 - 00:49:49:10
Judith
So when I was mad, I used to imagine. And I couldn't walk either. For a lot of the time. I had lots of physical injuries and lots of things going on, but I would imagine myself running along the beach and I wouldn't just see her over there running on the beach. I would run on the beach. I would feel the firm, wet sand under my feet.
00:49:49:12 - 00:50:02:06
Judith
I would feel the little waves touch my feet as I splashed through. I'd feel the splashes. I would smell the ocean. I would live it. So that's the second key.
00:50:02:08 - 00:50:03:01
Filly
00:50:03:03 - 00:50:31:17
Judith
To go into the future and live it and just visualise it, live it, taste it, smell it, feel it, be it. So as well as looking at those scans and imagining that fluid draining from my brain, I would imagine myself symptom free. And I always go back to running on the beach. It is my happy. It's my happy place.
00:50:31:19 - 00:50:40:05
Judith
And I would live experience that living healthy.
00:50:40:07 - 00:51:06:06
Filly
Do you think, like your body responded really quickly to the physical imagination of healing your body? Do you? I I'm just curious. I wonder if it happens so fast for you because you already cleaned trauma as well. So the body was out of a A and you'd also you've had so much evidence it's like, oh my gosh, if I can heal that I can heal that.
00:51:06:08 - 00:51:26:23
Judith
Yeah, yeah yeah. And in your body is in that state of rest and restore and not in fight and flight and freeze and shut down. It's a very different body. It's much more receptive.
00:51:27:01 - 00:51:28:17
Filly
00:51:28:19 - 00:51:29:17
Judith
So yeah.
00:51:29:19 - 00:51:30:23
Filly
00:51:31:01 - 00:51:53:15
Judith
And so when, when, when you've turned off those trauma loops, those video tape loops in the unconscious so that the body isn't responding as if that and that and that happening. So I'm about to die, I'm being attacked here. This is happening and that is happening. I don't have time to worry about this little issue of fluid in my brain, because I'm going to be killed in a minute.
00:51:53:17 - 00:51:56:17
Judith
00:51:56:19 - 00:52:05:14
Judith
It's not going to do it. So I have to turn all that off. And then the body is in the most receptive place.
00:52:05:15 - 00:52:08:22
Filly
00:52:09:00 - 00:52:36:16
Filly
Sustained. So go ahead. I know that everyone's just like mine. I bet you're right. And everyone's like lipo my arguments. What the heck, I can heal myself. I've got one more question. We were talking about the before. So what's the connection between unconscious core beliefs and resolving trauma. Why is it so important?
00:52:36:18 - 00:52:57:21
Judith
Okay, well the first one is if you want to be create any change now, whether it's about wellness or success in a career or whatever it is. Being able to shoot a goal in basketball.
00:52:57:23 - 00:53:05:01
Judith
The unconscious in the conscious mind have to be in agreement.
00:53:05:02 - 00:53:29:07
Judith
That's the first thing I have to agree that. Yep, that's a great idea. Let's do that. And it's safe for me to do that. I mean, you see okay, let's talk about football. We're Australians. It's a big topic in a lot of places. I was doing a Weber workshop a little while ago, and in the second row was a very famous footballer.
00:53:29:09 - 00:53:50:17
Judith
And I was talking about this and watching as his leg started doing this, things. Because if we get to a point, if we've had some success and some things have happened because of it that haven't been so good, the unconscious can take on the idea. It's not safe to be successful. It's not safe to stand out, to be outstanding and to get shut that down.
00:53:50:19 - 00:54:16:16
Judith
And so what can happen is the unconscious, that 95% that runs every chemical reaction, every electrical response in the body, it runs the body. This is important. The unconscious can go not it's not safe. You have to have it to have any more success. I'm getting you out of here. And that sportsman can then have, series of injuries that eventually take him out of the sport.
00:54:16:18 - 00:54:21:22
Judith
He came up to me, this gentleman, afterwards, with tears in his eyes. You see, that's what happened to me.
00:54:22:00 - 00:54:23:11
Filly
00:54:23:13 - 00:54:49:13
Judith
Is that what it was? I wasn't, yeah. Do you want to change that said do I. So we all you know I took people through an exercise to change those unconscious core beliefs. The other thing is why it's so important. For this is you can turn off those video tape loops like for myself, for example, let's take me as the guinea pig because I know me best.
00:54:49:15 - 00:55:04:19
Judith
We could turn off all the distressing events that happened in my life by turning off the top three. And my symptoms of anxiety, PTSD, nightmares, blah blah blah and multiple personalities would simply go away.
00:55:04:21 - 00:55:09:11
Judith
And I'd walk out and I'd find other abusers like that.
00:55:09:13 - 00:55:10:12
Filly
00:55:10:14 - 00:55:45:10
Judith
Because my programming. Because even before we're born, we're taking on ideas of who we are, our place in the world are we love, are we safe? And for those first seven years we were a little sponge. Our brain is working on the theta frequency, which is very slow. It's basically hypnosis. We're taking in information like, you know, little kids learn languages, learn so much so fast, Y so that that if anything happens that have the greatest chance of being able to survive because they've learned as much as possible in those first years.
00:55:45:12 - 00:56:12:15
Judith
And that's great. That's wonderful. But we can take on ideas that aren't true. You know what I call unconscious core beliefs? It's the software, the programming that's installed into the computer that is us. And on the screen of our computer, which is our life. That programming will show up.
00:56:12:16 - 00:56:53:05
Judith
So in my own instance, for example, as I said, I took on these ideas. I don't matter, I'm shit and I deserve to be treated like shit. I deserve to suffer. I deserve to be punished. I make good people do bad things. That was the messages I got when I was little, you know, I was in a big family and you fit in, but when, as a very young child, I told an adult that what this particular priest had been doing to me, the response I got was, what did you do to that good man of God to make him do that?
00:56:53:07 - 00:57:07:09
Judith
And so I thought, it's my fault. I'm a terrible, evil person. I'm going to hell. I deserve to suffer. I deserve to be punished.
00:57:07:11 - 00:57:18:14
Judith
So what happened on the screen of my life is that wherever I went, I attracted violent lunatics.
00:57:18:16 - 00:57:50:02
Judith
And being a good Catholic, I punished myself. My penance for being such a bad person. And so that was the story of my life. Until I realised. Many, many decades later, that I was actually. Do you mean the problem's not out there? That not everybody's a lunatic? You mean the problem is.
00:57:50:04 - 00:58:04:05
Judith
What the do you mean? I'm the magnet? I'm the one making this. I'm the one is putting the big neon sign on my head. Get your meat. Yeah, I'm a victim.
00:58:04:07 - 00:58:23:11
Judith
Oh. Well, that makes it interesting, doesn't it? Because if I cause this shit fuckery. I can fuck myself. By changing the programming.
00:58:23:13 - 00:58:27:21
Judith
And then I figured out how to do it.
00:58:27:23 - 00:58:29:02
Filly
00:58:29:04 - 00:58:35:20
Judith
Not that I'm blaming that little kid for the things that happened to her.
00:58:35:22 - 00:59:00:15
Judith
But we can, like I say to a client, I can predict the rest of your life. And I got you a psychic. I know. But I can still predict the rest of your life thinking, how can you do that? I said, well, your pattern has been bullying and abuse all your life. Like I it when I was doing the homework, I just so it was the same thing again and again.
00:59:00:15 - 00:59:21:19
Judith
Bullying and abuse. Just different people went, yeah, guess what? The rest of your life is going to be Groundhog Day. More bullying and abuse. How's that working for you? Darling, darling woman. Let's change this, darling man. Let's change this.
00:59:21:21 - 00:59:44:19
Judith
We can actually become the designer and the architect of our life by knowing how to uninstall unhelpful programs and install the positive ones. I matter, I deserve to be treated with care and respect it. Safe for me to have success as much as I want. It's safe for me to be seen and heard. You know what, I got a lot to say and it's really good.
00:59:44:21 - 01:00:12:01
Judith
It's safe for me to be well, it's safe for me. Do you know what? I deserve? A really good life. I'm sick of this. Shut down. It's survival. You know, Bruce Lipton, in the 70s, he was working at Stanford. He was the first cell biologist. Declined stem cells, and he discovered that our cells have only two switches shut down survival all energy going into just abstaining life or thriving and growing.
01:00:12:03 - 01:00:34:09
Judith
And he says, we are a community of 50 trillion cells. Are we in shutdown, survival or thriving and growing? And it's the environment. More than that, it's our perception of the environment. That causes shutdown well, thriving and growing. So if you're if you're in shutdown, do something about it.
01:00:34:11 - 01:00:35:16
Filly
01:00:35:18 - 01:00:53:15
Judith
Go and see Filipa. Go and see someone change your life. You don't have to be in so much distress. Yeah. You just don't have to be.
01:00:53:17 - 01:01:13:23
Filly
I think to like if we go back to what we were talking about right at the start, a lot of people feel like this has to take a long time or it does take a long time, but even just that switch of narrative and belief that what if it what if it didn't? What if it could be quick and what if it could be kind of easy as well?
01:01:13:23 - 01:02:00:16
Filly
Like then when you can start implanting new beliefs, even around the possibility of healing, that it could even be fun, then things could happen a lot faster. One thing that you talked about, the little girl, the little girl who had things happen to her and she decided to believe something about herself. That was a pivotal part in my own healing, that I didn't cause certain things to happen to me as a little girl, but I chose to believe it at some point, and that was really powerful, because then I had this understanding that, oh, okay, if I chose to believe that thing that feels really real, like it's literally been governing my life, but
01:02:00:16 - 01:02:10:04
Filly
I chose it. So therefore I can choose something new. And then it's like possibilities opened up in my brain.
01:02:10:06 - 01:02:13:08
Judith
Yep. Yeah. Good on you Filipa.
01:02:13:10 - 01:02:15:12
Filly
01:02:15:14 - 01:02:16:18
Judith
Things can change.
01:02:16:23 - 01:02:39:18
Filly
Things can change. This has been such an awesome conversation. Thank you so much for coming on. Really grateful. I know that everyone who has been listening today, I'm sure that everyone's got so much out of this and the possibility of healing ING both trauma in the physical body, like it's so possible for everyone.
01:02:39:19 - 01:02:48:02
Judith
Yeah, and.
01:02:48:04 - 01:02:50:07
Judith
What should I be saying no to?
01:02:50:09 - 01:02:52:17
Filly
Yeah. And what should I be saying no to?
01:02:52:17 - 01:02:55:21
Judith
What should I be saying no to and do that?
01:02:55:23 - 01:03:17:10
Filly
Yeah, I love that. So if anyone wants to find out more about you, the TTP process, we have practitioners, coaches, therapists listening to our podcast as well as general public. How, how can people find you?
01:03:17:12 - 01:03:38:21
Judith
Go to TTP therapy.com CTP therapy.com. You can also go to YouTube and search TTP channel TTP channel. But the website will certainly start you off.
01:03:38:23 - 01:03:39:23
Filly
Yeah.
01:03:40:01 - 01:03:55:08
Judith
And and the need is massive. We've just gone into the States. We are about to be overrun. If you are a coach, therapist consider joining us.
01:03:55:10 - 01:03:56:12
Filly
01:03:56:14 - 01:03:59:22
Judith
We will change. Our mental health is done on the planet.
01:04:00:00 - 01:04:25:17
Filly
Yep. This is going to be I feel like you know thanks Filipa. Thank you so much. I feel like in a few years time this will be the standard practice for psychologists and everyone else in mental health. The YouTube channel is awesome to listeners that you've got so many great webinars that you've done in the past that you can learn so much more about the TTP process.
01:04:25:19 - 01:04:27:06
Judith
Definitely.
01:04:27:08 - 01:04:34:02
Filly
So thank you so much, everybody for listening in. And we'll catch you next week.
01:04:34:03 - 01:04:41:05
Judith
Thanks, Filipa. Great to see.
01:04:41:07 - 01:04:51:09
Filly
Thank you so much for listening. We so appreciate you. If you'd like to give us extra smiles, drop us a review and spread the love by sharing this episode.
01:04:51:11 - 01:05:15:14
Chris
You can also write your own state of burnout and the root cause contributors by taking our Ending Body Burnout assessment on our website. And if you're interested in learning about a group or one on one ending buddy burnout programs, shoot us a DM via Instagram or Facebook. Have the best day ever.
01:05:15:16 - 01:05:25:20
Chris
For.
01:05:25:22 - 01:05:26:03
Chris
Us.
